Them’s fightin’ words!!!

So we apparently have a war of words going on between feminists and MRA's. If you stand back, you'll see that feminist and MRA websites and blogs pretty much say the exact same thing. Replace Patriarchy with feminism and the messages at their core are virtually identical. It's amusing in it's irony, if it weren’t for the fact that men, women and children are suffering for it.

Both say they are being hurt by contemporary society and also both sides are stating that it’s all the others fault. If only they would start to listen to our plight so a consensus can be reached. So the war of words continues, neither side giving ground as both sides relate the issues pertaining to their own gender. Heels get dug in, frustration and anger erupts and the merry go round continues on its way. It appears we have reached a stalemate, or possibly a pissing contest depending on who is looking at which gender's blog. “Who is getting hurt the worst” so to speak, and no matter how much one gender is getting disadvantaged, it obviously pales in comparison to what is currently happening to ours.

So, who's right and who has their head up their @$$?

In truth, being a man against feminism, I obviously have a biased viewpoint here in thinking that it’s us dudes who are correct and it’s high time the ladies actually opened their ears. That being said, while feminists are mostly full of crap, there are some things, which I'd be lying if I said I didn't see their point once in a blue moon.

However, what of the war of words? The Mexican standoff that both genders are currently facing in terms of our specific issues with society? It seems that there will be no clear winner as arguments are continuously launched and countered as we jockey for position, each trying to undermine the other with logic and other tactics. Men feel wronged and so do women. Women now feel as if their comeuppance has finally arrived. Technically in this day and age, men and women are interchangeable, so womankind isn’t threatened by any male rhetoric negative to their cause. No reason to pay attention to teh dudez, haven't you read "The End Of Men?" All's well in Wonderland and men have a hard time proving otherwise.

That is, however until the Misandry Bubble deepens. As time goes on, the differences between men and women will become more apparent, painfully so as it slowly begins to dawn on women that marriage and security while valuable to both genders aren't valued to the same extent.

As the recession deepens and the economy continues to plummet, that even as their own security begins to diminish, it will be quite illuminating for women to realize that men by and large won’t be as upset by this situation as they are. To realize that men simply aren’t similarly affected by cutbacks to social services and health-care. That men can survive on very little which is a far cry from the much larger investment required for their own continued existence. We’re not even getting into child rearing in this stage of the game yet, that’s a whole different ball of wax.

The main thing, which will be very disconcerting to women, is that men can simply sit on their duffs, working what most would call a dead end job and take care of their own needs. Is it perfect for men; not bl**dy likely, it will be a terrible time make no mistake about that. However they can still survive under those circumstances. Due to promiscuity, women will have little to no leverage in getting their proposed partners to ‘man up’ that is if they can even find a suitable one in that day and age.

Men by and large married for regular sex, now that it's so cheap, what do they lose by not marrying? That will be a very bitter pill for women to swallow and we are already starting to see this happening in the sexual marketplace.

It will be a very scary realization for a score of women, particularly feminists when they realize that it was indeed men who subsidized their supposed ‘equality’ and with no negative consequence for a man to bypass matrimony, their lack of 'power' will be highly frustrating and very distressing. Once women's security and standard of living becomes threatened with no positive end in sight, I’m betting the volleys from Feminists will no longer carry as much bile and men’s ‘rhetoric’ will suddenly become rather interesting.

For the moment any feminist will argue this post and many other points I make as foolish or simply shame me into oblivion. That's fine, this is exactly what I expect at this juncture as to both Feminists and MRA's the future could go either way. Arguing feminists is simply a waste of time, and us guys can get sucked in trying to reason with the unreasonable. However, I will simply leave you with a quote from 'President' Morgan Freeman to 'Investigative Reporter' Tea Leoni in the movie 'Deep Impact'. Essentially he reminded her that he was the president even though she had some critical information, which could undermine his plans.

"It may appear that we have each other over a barrel Miss Lerner, but it only SEEMS that way."

Omnipitron

Out of the Mouth of Babes....sort of

Out on a short-term project at a clients’ facility at the moment, which gives me, some face time with my direct manager.  I’ve been working with this guy for a long time, almost 12 years in fact for this company and I’ve known him for about 4 years before that. It was him who had actually got me the job for this company when I was down and out (and the company was quite a bit different then) 12 years ago so I owe him quite a bit. He was only working part time back then but they sorely needed staff and I sorely needed a job which was a match made in heaven. As an aside, he knows I have serious ADHD, and he works with me in order to assist me get the best out of myself. Most people don’t, and wouldn’t even try to understand my situation.

I owe this guy the world, there is no other way I can say it.

However, before I get too far ahead of myself, I need to give you guys a little info on my Manager. You see he is in his mid 20’s, so he is 10 years younger than me. That’s right, you do the math and I’ve known him since he was in highschool. Let me tell you something else, he is one of the most driven individuals I have ever met in my life. I have watched him work up the ladder of success from being a fulltime highschool student, to a fulltime university student, to graduating University and working with the company fulltime (he was part time all those years previously), to actually succeeding me (wasn’t too hard for him really, I wasn’t diagnosed then and was a schlepper, but that takes nothing away from his drive) to becoming a manager of our company.

This young man is scarcely old enough to rent a car in America, and he has finished yet another correspondence course in terms of business, bought his own home (he’s single) is looking to further his formal business education, invests regularly and is the Manager of Operations of a 7-figure division in a gigantic company.

Not bad huh, not bad at all.

To top it all off, this guy isn't ugly at all, I've actually seen this guy in public and be completely ignorant to the female attention he regularly grabs. I don't think he considers himself Brad Pitt, but in all honesty when you consider everything about him he is a mustang surrounded by Kia's.

This is the kind of guy, which makes quite a few of us ‘normal’ people look like lazy bums in comparison. When he tells me about the ideas he has for our division and where he sees us, I simply can’t believe the amount of vision he has for someone so young. We where actually talking about one of the many new plans he has for us now when he happened to talk about his personal life for a smidge. You see, he is in no hurry to get married, there is far too much for him to do at this juncture, but his girlfriend is.  He had said that she believes they are all set, now, house, good job, and savings so marriage and children are looking pretty good right about now.

I chuckled when he said that.

In essence, he and his gf are indeed ready to ‘settle down’ but everything I have just written which proves that they are ready have come from HIM, nothing from her. Now I’ve met his gf, she is far more reasonable than most North American Women, but I still had to explain to my young but very successful manager the real deal.  Despite all the claims otherwise by women and the lamestream media, things really haven’t changed much from the man-provider, woman-provided for role we saw in history. Of course she sees that they are ready for a more serious relationship, they have HIS house, and HIS steady income, what else is there?

Now this is where he truly showed how smart he really is.

He had stated that even though men are still on the hook for their responsibilities as far as families go, they don’t get the same ‘privileges’ any longer so to speak. Let me just say this for the record, he has never been to an MRA blog, and I rarely tell him anything about what I have seen in the manosphere. He came to this ever present, but oft ignored conclusion all by himself.

Ain't it great ladies?

He then told me that whenever his gf says they should move in together, he pulls out the logic card and he does have enough game to make it work. He tells her that he will sell his house, and they will buy a bigger one, and then they can settle down. She, natch, can’t afford it, to which he replies “Then why do you want to move in together?”

Ah gotta love it.

He knows the deal, and the thing, which really makes me shake my head, is that this guy is a catch by any woman’s standards. He has a decent amount of game but I don’t think he actually understands the levels to which he could regularly score if he actually knew what the whole deal was. Make no mistake, if this guy spent even an hour on a PUA website, he would be dangerous.

C’mon, confident, good looking, young educated, and ferociously ambitious guy with a sh!tload of game? If he was a PUA, one couldn’t even say he would’ve been the type your mom warned you about, as everything else about him would have a girls parents whooping for joy at her good fortune. Well, before being pumped and dumped that is. I told him just that too, as far as his gf was concerned, she hit it out of the park by choosing him, most women will never even get a whif of a dude stacked like my manager and she knows it. I also bet that is why she is pushing to move in with him in the first place. As time goes on, my young manager is going nowhere but up, this does indeed put a little pressure on his gf’s SMP at the same time.

It’s funny, and sad all at the same time really. It was after my manager  stated his belief’s I realized how effed we all really where in society. This young stud is a woman’s wet dream, he is so driven that he doesn’t even realize what his SMP actually is and how he could use it for ‘evil’ (read; PUA) if he so chose. Yet even though he would rather settle down in the end he is balking at marriage because of the losing proposition that it creates for husbands and fathers.

Let’s say it together friends…GOOOOO FEMINISM

Omnipitron

Leaders of the Old Skool

 Just read this article from In Mala Fide and it had me all over the place. Frost was right, I’m not an Internet tough guy and it did move me to see the clip from UP. Also reading his linked post to Solomon II’s lost gold (thank you to Dalrock for saving these wonderful gems) had my head positively spinning. Every so often on the manosphere, reference is made to what our ‘grandfathers’ had, that some of us, sadly most of us will never get to experience. Sometimes, we imagine what it could be like, but sometimes we need something to shock us, to give us a dose of history to see what it is that most men are really missing out on.

Here you have a man, I would call him a man’s man, who had to actually go out and defend his country and way of life, risking it for everything he held dear. He existed in a different time, times that we only see through movies, and books. What he says about today’s women should be a real eye opener for current women. A quote from Solomon II c/o Dalrock;

“Listen to me.  A good woman ages beautifully.  When I look at my wife, I see the most gorgeous woman in the universe.  Her wrinkled hands got that way by keeping up with my two boys and working hard for them while I was on the road.  The lines under her eyes are from years of shedding tears for me when I was at war, and those wrinkles on her brow are from decades of worry for me and my two sons.  It was her legs they held on to when they were learning to walk, her lap was where they learned to read, and her breasts were their first nourishment. The first kiss those boys ever received was from her lips, and God willing, my last kiss will be from her lips.

You two don’t know what you’re missing – or maybe you do.  But all I know is that she’s as beautiful, desirable, and lovely today as the day I met her, and I wouldn’t trade one second with her for a lifetime of rowdiness with one of those harlots you guys have waiting for you back home.

You two don’t know what beauty is.  In a way, I feel sorry for both of you.  I’m not getting on your case, because if there’s one thing I’ve learned from my own sons, it’s that women aren’t what they used to be.

The whole thing is just goddamn pathetic if you ask me.”

How many wives would love to have their husbands talk about them like Philly talked about his wife? How many mothers would love to have their sons in law talk about their daughters the same way?

I’m betting quite a few.

Then why on God’s green earth are you ladies allowing bullsh!t to get in the way of what you know needs to be done? Why is it that when a man talks about the current set of circumstances other men face that so many feminists and ‘concerned ladies’ would rather argue or ignore it? It took a network of men to keep things on an even keel, to keep their boys, who we all knew would be taking their places one day, on the straight and narrow and it will take a network of men to possibly make a dent in today’s ludicrous society. This right here is something that a few women are indeed afraid of, yes that their young sons are growing up in a world which will throw them to the wolves, but also to a world filled with more and more PUA’s and less and less ‘NICE’ men for their daughters.

Yet when men tell you what the issue is, you don’t want to listen, or defend your current practice of p!ssing into the wind. Nice.

Those words came from an old school man, he had something which quite a few men would die for, some ‘young bucks’ are screaming at the top of their lungs why there is an issue…and it boggles my mind that so many women don’t want to listen. I can understand feminists, but I'm appalled at the amount of 'concerned' women who have their head up their @$$.

Yeah, the clip from UP, Solomon II’s, and Frost’s posts really hit me hard, and moved me, but it also enraged me at the same time. I’ll be blunt, IF you are a woman who cares ONE WHIT about the future of your children and you make it a regular habit NOT to listen to men and their issues, you are dumber than dirt, period.

You want to make sure your daughter finds a good man without caring about men’s needs, then I would suggest you find a good Genie, or wish upon a star, because with every passing year, it’s going to get more difficult.

Omnipitron

Sluts Have Rights Too!!!

Had a very long day today dealing with a large client on a complicated project. Lots of training and lots of bureaucracy. Came back to the office and decided to check out today's paper for it's more 'colourful' merit's (the sunshine girl on the last page.)

Auck, I saw the front page and almost lost what little lunch I had.

This article in the Toronto Sun was of course the source of my intestinal distress. Due to the utterings of a Constable Micheal Sanquinetti, women of Toronto organized a 'Slut Walk' to protest his foolish and insensitive statement. One guess what that statement was....if you guessed that dressing provocatively can sometimes garner the wrong sort of attention, you get the boobie prize. Apparently he was at York University and had told a law class that "women should avoid dressing like sluts in order not to be victimized." and this is the resulting sh!tstorm which resulted.

Gotta love how Toronto's police chief said the Micheal WHO SPOKE THE TRUTH had uttered "something stupid and he’s apologized." Sing it with me now...."Aliiiiice.....in HAAAAMSTERLAND!" More quotes from the article;

Protest co-founder Sonya Barnett said victims are “never at fault."

“Slut shaming needs to be addressed,” the York undergrad said.

No sh!t Hun, but not for the reasons you believe. Maybe if sluts where shamed a little more than perhaps the degradation of society would cease, yeah? Remember friends, these are also the same women who are wondering where all the nice guys are and are tired of all these playa's, right? Hey, rape is a heinous crime, I do not condone rape in any of it's forms and do believe it's disgusting and very damaging. HOWEVER, if you are stupid enough to dress like a 3 dollar whore and then wonder why you got followed home or worse, OR, if you are mentally deficient enough to take a guy you barely know home, get his motor running and then stop at 3rd base, you are gambling with your life and your future. For crying out loud even my SISTER knows how stupid such actions are and told me just that a few years back, but I guess these womyn are convinced of their own fantasy.

This Constable was smart enough to see things for what they really where, woman like Sonya Barnett, on the other hand as well as any other 'child' who took part in this foolish parade, are simply overgrown kids who want to play in big people clothes and then go right back to playing with their toys when they are done.

The world doesn't give a flying leap about what you want or what you feel like. If you play with the bull, you get the horns. There are some dudes out there who will indeed listen when you state "No means no", but there are some who won't. It is a shame, I'm not saying it's right at all, but you need to PROTECT YOURSELF in this manner. I would love to walk around at anytime and at any place on this planet myself, but as a black man, you won't find me alone in certain places on this continent as certain groups who identify themselves with only three consonants if you catch my drift may decide to have a 'word' with me. This constable was only trying to mitigate future empowered women from making other foolish mistakes and increasing their odds of having their lives changed drastically.

"Jane Doe, a high-profile survivor who successfully sued Toronto Police for not warning residents of a home-invading attacker in 1986, said attitudes that women’s clothing invites rape are perpetuated by media, police and church leaders."

Remember what I said about women arguing with guys?

Don't worry though, Const. Michael Sanguinetti has been reprimanded and is undergoing 'further training' because of his little 'whoopsie'. All in a days work for a man trying to tell the truth in the Matrix.

Omnipitron

Alice In Hamsterland?

 We all know about the rationalization hamster thanks to Roissy, that wonderful bit of validation which women (and some men) will engage in so they can explain away something they don't wish to see. However, what I'm wondering about now is the realm the rash-ham returns these people too. The hamster only races on its wheel when something seems wrong with a tidbit of inconvenient information. Information, which will upset someone's perception of the world forcing him or her to view things in a different manner, a manner they don’t wish to acknowledge. The hamster shows up to explain things away in a manner, which protects this worldview, saving the day sort to speak.

So there is more to this than meets the eye, no? 

See, women want to protect their feelings and maintenance of this perception of the world, which does so, is key to this. They will use any means necessary to achieve this end. If logic no longer serves this purpose, than the Rationalization Hamster can and often does take over. So, a woman's feelings are protected as her irrational viewpoint is shored up in a fantasy world, a literal wonderland where nothing can attack her.

Nothing...except reality.

The dangerous thing about Wonderland is that while it fills people with warm fluffies, it has very little basis in reality at times. Sometimes it's a stretch, and other times one really has to wonder what color the sky is in their world. Exceptions taken as the rule, dismissal of a great many experiences which counter their own, yup, Wonderland is obviously the real deal, to these people, their reality is obviously the real one as IT doesn't affect their worldview negatively.

Sometimes, Wonderland is the complete inverse of reality, and the results can be catastrophic.

However, all of this doesn’t matter, Wonderland is a magical place where nothing bad can ever exist and the evils of society can be put into a nice and neat little box. Usually left on the doorstep of men. Women can and often will fight tooth and nail to protect Wonderland, no matter how much it could and does hurt themselves and even womankind. Wonderland must be protected, no matter the cost, and pesky things like reality are simply intruders, which need to be eradicated so the Shangri-La of Wonderland remains undisturbed. 

Reality is a very pesky intruder indeed.

This is why you will often even see women argue with men over what motivates male sexuality. Who better to learn from than a bunch of men, right? Sadly no, the ugly truth is too much to bear for quite a lot of women. It would make them feel bad so they would rather escape to Wonderland, use their rationalization hamsters to destroy those pesky statistics, debase that annoying logic, and be whisked away once more to a place where their truth, no matter how illogical, no matter how utterly disproved still remains.

In reality, this mindset is also highly dangerous.

One of my favorite women on the Manosphere is Thag Jones who did her best to shake some people out of Wonderland with unassailable truth late last year. She was simply stating a very true fact that if a woman marries while she is younger she faces a much better chance of finding the type of man she wants. The thing, which amazed me, was that in order for her to do that, she had to face down a very ugly truth herself, the same truth many of these women and their supportive Mangina Yes-Men didn't want to face.

I had to give Thag props for that, it simply can't be easy to face something along the lines that she did.  Thag told me something I have heard before but in this context I will never forget. She said, and I quote; "I'd rather be told the ugly truth that a pretty lie"

Damn skippy, and you are stronger than you know for even being able to say that!!!

The thing is, that pretty lie can and often does lead to an ugly truth. As a man, I can't see how it could be comfortable to see or admit it, but its important for a woman to comprehend. Waste your time now on sexy men who can't commit, and you may impede your prospects later in life. Not a comfortable truth to realize, but a necessary one just the same. The thing which I think steamed Thag the most, was that some of the women there wanted to stay in Wonderland so long that they would give younger women bad advice in order to bolster their own incorrect viewpoint.

Interesting.

Women grab hold to any little facet in the world, which will bolster their position, therefore reinforcing their fantasy and making Wonderland more real. Take cougars for example; this little movement has women whooping for joy. Women actually still being considered sexually powerful beings well into what one would normally have considered middle age. So now, women can reject the idea that they are ‘over the hill’ and can STILL corner the sexual marketplace far after their Wil. E Coyote moment. They took that bone and ran with it, as we all know.

Gotta love Wil. E. Coyote.

I had a talk with my SIL once about cougars and she related the story of her best friend’s sister. You see, she's a self-avowed cougar, 50 years young and takes good care of herself. I have actually met this woman and can vouch for her tenacity in this regard. However, here's the scoop; she has two teenaged kids, and she is high maintenance so her prospective guy needs to be able to pull in lots of bread. The kicker, she doesn't want a guy older than 30.

Nice.

I asked her how that was going, no surprise, still flying solo (NO, REALLY? WHO'DA THUNK IT?). She had asked me that how would a guy who made that kind of money at that age be fine with not having kids? He obviously would be young enough, how about his parents, wouldn’t they be just a tad upset? I then leveled with her, there are guys at that age who do make that kind of money...and they are getting much prettier and younger women than this cougar.

The room fell silent, I guess I troubled her Wonderland a little myself.

Wonderland says she can ask for whatever she wants, reality states that she is far too picky and the guys she wants don't want her. Life doesn't care how you FEEL; it doesn't care about your likes or dislikes. It simply does what it does and one can play by "the rules" and increase your odds of being successful, or ignore them and increase you odds of failing. This is reality, and no, there are times that it isn’t nice. Even me for crying out loud, do I like the fact that I have ADHD and it makes life just a little harder? Do I like the fact that being black sometimes means the cops drive by me a little bit slower?

@#$^ no, but what am I going to do about that? What choice do I have?

I deal, by learning how to work with my ADHD, and NOT getting my @$$ caught by the cops by engaging in activities which would make them suspect me. It’s just that simple and all of us have inconveniences in our own lives that we deal with on a daily basis. We deal, as pretending that they aren’t there is simply a fool’s errand. I mean, temporarily, heck that would be sweet, but long term, painful. I don’t care if it makes you feel better, forgetting you have a mortgage and not paying it means that you will be downsizing eventually, it’s only a matter of time. Wonderland is great, but it can lead to Dante’s Inferno if you remain just a tad too long. Better just to never go there, really, and most definitely do not argue in favor of this ‘wonderful’ place opposed to reality.

Sorry, for a woman the deal simply is this;

A man isn't going to want you for your money, men by and large don't seek this out. You can be trumped by a sexy waitress. Ugly but true

A man isn't going to find you as attractive in your 30's and beyond as you where in your 20's, hard I know, but this is the truth

If you focus on your career in your 20's, then most of the 'best' men will already be taken and you will be fighting for the remainder 

You simply aren't as strong as a man, and if you decide to hit one, he may hit you back, and he will hit harder. Iron Man2 was a movie, Scarlett Johansson would get owned in real life by ONE man

Treat a man with respect, this goes a long way, being a b!tch is only a media meme

Men like low mileage (or no mileage) women , if you bang everyone and the village idiot, this will (let me say that again) it WILL impede your chances for finding a 'good spouse' later

Men considered as 'thugs' CANNOT be changed into better men. I actually had a young alpha male tell me he COUNTS ON THIS in order to lure unsuspecting (read; stupid) women into his grasp. Bad boys are sexy, and undependable, time to realize this 

You are NOT doing a man a favor by marrying him. In all honesty, IF anyone is reciving a favor, IT'S YOU 

Treat your man well, you cannot trade up in the future, but your man just might, sorry this is truth

 

Let me say this final thing as it is a personal pet peeve of mine....STOP BLOODY WELL ARGUING WITH MEN OVER WHAT IT IS THAT MEN WANT. MEN KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO....THEY'RE MEN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!

If you ignore the points I have just made, there is a very good chance you will end up exactly where you don't want to be. Men don't like 35 year old, high mileage bitches who think they can beat up men twice their size and has a high powered job. The reality is that the demure, pretty, 20 something waitress at Moxie's will trump you and this is the bottom line!!!

I've been to Moxie's, they hire well there!!! An established man has options, you in all reality DON'T want to be competing with them. The women who have achieved this are the exception NOT the rule.

Whether one wants to see facts, statistics or even reality, or not is irrelevant, life will do it what it does regardless of our useless bleating. And the best thing that we all need to learn is that umbrellas do not stop falling 10-ton boulders. 

Yeah, that will go far!! 

Omnipitron.